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Ahmadinejad from a different angle
Posted by Ali Sanaei under Ahmadinejad, Culture, Iran, Middle East, Politics, Religion and Spirituality
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad not shaking hands with a Vietnamese woman in Vietnam:
Doing his Zuhr/Asr Prayers on a mat in the streets:
President of Iran having his luxurious meal:
And sleeping simply in peace:
How many of you have seen your leaders actually obeying religious rules, in private life and international relations, and living in such commoner way?
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I am sure that in real life, he lives nothing like that.
Why didn’t he shake the hand of the Vietnamese lady? To me that is rude.
Women in Iran have to wear the hijab, regardless of their religion or nationality. Yet whilst in Vietnam Ahmadinejad made no effort to get along with the local customs. Regardless of the religious reasons he should of shook her hand. Religion is no excuse in Iran when it comes to the hijab. Yet outside Iran he can use it as an excuse for not partaking in local greetings. I find that quite hypocritical.
Did you see what happened to him Columbia univ?
The extent of his cruelty was exposed when he said he wanted to have an open debate with president Bush. That is like saying he wants to compete in the special olympics.
Seems more peaceful than George W Bush. And more eloquent too! How many wars has Mr Ahmadinejad started over his time in office?
yeah…it’s hard to hate a guy who wants to open dialog and sympathize with our tragedies.
what i don’t see being mentioned is that this guy is the democratically elected president of Iran. he’s not some sheik or dictator. also, we forget that Iran is a completely different country with a completely different culture. I’m just not buying it this time Bush Co.
Hey Mac, how do you know his real life? how could you say your sure? sure of what?
In Iran, even his oppositions know that this has been his life style for years and is still so. In fact, this is makin them even more angry.
His officia presidential car is a Peogeut Persia, which is an 405 improved one. His personal car is a Peogeut 504!! just google it and see how this car looks like.
Where on earth have you ever seen a president being so keen on his religious issues. In Islam shaking with some women is forbidden, strictly. It has a logical reason which you could find out if you wish to.
American people can’t think and see things by their own. They only see what they’ve been feed by their government …
He is a petty dictator.
a terrorist.
as simple as that.
Don’t you remember where most of the 911 hijackers came from?
Not Afghanistan nor Pakistan
Not Iraq nor Iran
Go on, have a guess!
Dear America. Stop playing with peoples lives a**holes!
He is right.
he’s giving a simple message.
IF holocaust exists, IS IT 6 million Jews? why can’t we continue researching on this subject?
after all, IF YES and Holocaust is true and it was 6m people; why had Europe and US sent the Jews to Middle East and Palestine?! if Germans and other European countries have done such a disaster, why aren’t they giving a land of theirs to them?
If wiping off countries from world’s map is nasty, why has Israel done so to Palestine? where is Palestine on the map now?!!
Why is Israel invading Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. Because they want the whole land from Nile(Egypt) to Forat(Iraq) rivers… Just see the Israeli flag again …
Why is US and EUR supporting such a regime?
WHY DOESN’T WORLD WANT TO ANSWER THESE SIMPLE QUESTIONS?
I dont know who the hell you are but if you that mother f***er supporter, i am sorry for you
Absolutaley agree with Imran
He has been elected by Iranian people, because of his strong religious beliefs.
The Most Self-Confident Human-being On this Planet
I didn’t agree with his treatment at Columbia. That was worse than rude and a pathetic attempt to score points. He did show his strength of character by not rising to it, nor, at least as far as I know, making any reference to it.
As for it being against Islam to shake hands, well it is against most religions to wear symbols of another religion, yet in Iran they have to (the hijab is a symbol that the wearer is Muslim). Ahmadinejad was in Vietnam not in Iran, I am sure that if the Vietnamese lady were in Iran she would have been expected to wear the hijab, yet Ahmadinejad stood there like an idiot when she attempted to shake his hand. If people in Iran can make small compromises to their religion, then Ahmadinejad should have too. Besides if my knowledge of the Qu’ran is correct, the problem is women shaking men’s hands, the woman was not Muslim, ergo no problem.
As for the logical reason, he could have used his clean hand and I am sure that in Vietnam, they have soap.
Nadia, I am sure of one thing. In Iran they don’t print or show anything that they don’t want you to see. Therefore the reverse must also be true, they only show things that they want you to see. It is called propaganda, hype and PR, surely even in Iran you are aware of this?
Perhaps he is a deeply devout Muslim, unfortunately these days that isn’t as much of a compliment as it once was.
Imran you do raise some good points, Israel should never had been set up as a nation, especially at the expense of Palestine. However it does seems that 60 years on, the entire Muslim world is using this as an excuse for all their ills. When in reality they are more likely being persecuted by dictators within their own nation rather than some master plan of the West to destroy Islam.
You, the publisher of such comics, and not the reader are naive. A man with Paranoia, full of hatred and complex. What is the cause? Do the Iranians deserve no other president but him? Down with him and all petit Dictators who ruin the lives of the natives on the one hand and are a thread to the global peace on the other. Down with them!
Hey Jane, it’s not just the publisher, you’re actually calling 62% of Iranians who voted to Ahmadinejad naive. and let me tell you; we’re proud to have such a president with such ideologies.
This is Iranian culture, and we saw American’s in Columbia, NY.
watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ
we americans have been feed with lies.
watch this one too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwxzt4iPkNE
Few video clips to make you know Ahmadinejad more:
Full CBS Interview with Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZDLkLq5MXs
Ahmadinejad Speech at the UN 2007:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8752315109286146156
Iran’s president speech at the Columbia University:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8811386493119305065&q
Israil, the present country is ca. 50 years-old but hating the Jews, exists two thousand years. Hating another nation and threatening a nation, even though if it costs millions of lives in Iran. new martyrs even though the Iranians are struggling with the post-war condition ( CORRUPTION, MENTAL ILLNESS, INFLATION, UNEMPLOYMENT, ADDICTION ). Eight years has not been enough?
Who is responsible for the present situation in this land? who cares?
Let the people get ready for another war. Let the be killed for the sake of Palestinians and the araber who are one and all against the Iranians and their culture. They hate the Iranians. Let the nation die for the things that have nothing to do with the nation and the existing problems.
What if it comes to a peace between the Jews and the Araber?
Who cares if not the government of Iran ?
Jane, what is it with the US and Europe to support Israel? Why is US citizen’s tax being spent for a Zionist regime (Israek) which is killiong people like eating a peace of cake?
Besides, which Arabian government do you know that has been elected by people? So even if their governments come to peace with Israel (as they had before) the people of don’t countries won’t regonise it.
Besides, do you think the problem is only about Palestine? then it’s other Islamic countries turns.
I wish our leader was like him.
what i really think is that the US government and the zionist dont want him to speak because he is hitting the core issues, and they dont want the american public to wake up because zionisim is a disease …
ahmedinejad for US president wohoo!!!! he is so much better than BUSH…
mac
- hijab is not a dedicate “symbol” of islam. christians, jews and many other religions use it sometimes. it’s just a scarf on the head.
- making compromises to religion is not right most times. if his absolute belief is not to shake hands with femals, no exemptions. it’s an art to practice religious laws in every life’s single situation. this is what ahmadinejad has. he trusts in his religion and God, and has made him a strong man, not scared of any worldly powers. he just announces his opinions freedomly, and peacefully. who has he harmed so far?
- don’t be wrong, we’re back to those days when religion is on top spot. US, Iran, Israel, Palestine, Middle East, etc etc, it’s aalllll about religions. it’s always been! this situation needs leaders who practice and understand the religions in depth.
- I think Americans are the ones who are feed by their government. just review the headlines and news during ahmadinejad’s trip to NY. how much lie? I had a look to the links given by robby and gaab. I strongly recommend you watch them too. el-baradey has reported no illegal nuclear activities in iran. this man is the authorised officer by the UN. American’s freedom of speech is a fable when you’re not allowed to talk and discuss about Holocaust.
- I agree with you in some extends in your last paragraph. but note that it’s not the whole muslim world. it’s most arabian countries. you actually raised a good point. there isn’t any democracy in saudi arabia, kuwait, qatar, united arab emirates, jordan, etc etc and they’re ill, as you said, but US has nothing to do with them?!!!! why? because they’re American’s allies. the more interesting point is that these arabian regimes don’t have that much issies with israel, apart of its people. if you read history, they were actually making peace with israel before the iranian revoluation, and after that the Ayatollah Khomeini stated that israel should be wipped of the map and stated arabian countries’ leaders treacherous and called Israel-Palestine’s subject on top of all islamic countries (arab, persian, kurd, turk, afghan, paki, indo, etc) agenda. just image that a government that never existed comes to your town, kills everybody, occupies your house, your parent’s, sister and brothers and set-up an official government. fo no reason! Muslims are very united and know each other as brothers and sisters, so what ever race and region they come from, they defend each other. at least they should be so.
mac I’d be happy to continue my discussion with you here, but subject by subject.
Hello Parsa, I am sorry but that isn’t true about the hijab, the only place Jews and Christians wear them is in Iran, or in a nation where they feel they have to appear Muslim (i.e. Iraq). To a Christian or a Jew wearing it is comparable to a Muslim (or a Jew) wearing a cross, they are basically hiding there true religion.
While religion take precedence over the most important thing on earth, life, there can never be peace. Having deeply religious leaders is always a bad thing, just look at Bush and Blair. Besides there is no such religious belief that shaking hands with women is bad. That isn’t in the Qu’ran, the bible nor the Torah. It is made up as are many so called ‘beliefs’ that are basically just modern excuses to antagonise Westerners and their culture. Alcohol for instance, many Muslims won’t use alcohol based hand washes (so perhaps a good idea not to shake hands), as they say that it would compromise their beliefs, but the Qu’ran clearly states that intoxication is bad, not alcohol itself (and no one ever became intoxicated by washing there hands).
The pictures of Mohammed that had the ‘Muslim World’ up in arms because pictures of Mohammed and god is against Islam, but that is wrong. Idolatry is against Islam (and Christianity and Judaism for that matter), not depictions, the middle east is littered with pictures of Mohammed and God throughout the ages. You may have a point about the Western Media, but this is only a response to the ridiculously literal and twisted version of Islam that is being espoused by leaders in the Muslim world. The Caliphate, Sharia Law, Kafirs are the enemy. Brothers and Sisters etc. Yet in reality more Muslims are killed by other Muslims each year than by all the ones killed by Christians and Jews put together. Even though killing another Muslim is against Islam. That seems to be one law in which compromises can be made.
No Mac, I’m an Arab, and I love Iranians. That’s our governments who can’t see a powerfull Shia state in the region, especially KSA which is ruled by Wahabbis!!
Hello Khalid, that is precisely what I mean. The Sunni’s, Shias, Wahabbis and so on don’t even get along with each other yet claim that Islam is a religion of peace. Surely you can see why the West takes such comments with a pinch of salt?
That being said I don’t think that there is any basis for attacking Iran. The British know this as well, which is why they are getting out of the whole region as quickly as they can.
Excuse me Mac, but I’m Sunni my friend! we pray together with Shias.
Don’t you have such experiences in Christianity that different parties fighted with eachother in some history stages? I’m sure you know it much better than me.
If you mean what happens in Iraq, like some terrorists attacked the holy shrines in Samarra, that is for sure lead by Iraqi invaders who want to say that Muslims can’t live together on their own.
How were they living in the past, without Americans. The problem is the invaders, not the religious parties.
The main group who is doing this terrorist threats in mideast and the world are Wahhabies. Just read history and see who supported them? UK and France, and then USA. Bin Laden, Alqaeda, and these terrorist groups are all Wahhabbies which are supported by the KSA and especially the Saud family itself. they didn’t exist until 200-300 years ago. until UK and France helped a guy startin up somethin new by the aims of weakening the Uthmani empire, which they somehow succeeded. The splitted the Arabian countries, and the Al-Saud family got KSA.
Just see the history again, what ever problem exists in the ME, is the product of the old UK and France and now mainly USA.
Not just ME, but most other parts of the world, especially where there is any sort of energy resources ! !
Your information about Muslim’s Hijab is not complete and mostly wrong.
Do you think Bush and Blair are religious?! OMG! They act so, it doesn’t mean they are…
Again, your knowledge about Male-Female relation in Islam’s viewpoint is wrong. In Quran it’s explained that a Man can’t be in direct physical contact with any other woman. This includes touching the skin, shaking hands, sex, etc. Obviously, touching will be ok in some special occassions such as emergency, medical treatment, etc.
About what you said about hand washes: I’m a muslim and I use even alcohol contained perfumes, and where required I’ll use alcohol hand washers as well, which I actually do. and I AM a very religious person as well…
Look, there are always extremists in everything, and you shouldn’t pick them as a sample of the whole thing.
About picture of the prophet Mohammad, it isn’t as you think. In Iran we sometimes use pictures of prophets, including Jesus and Mohammad. One of the famous photos are a drawing done by a Christian at the time of the Prophet. The issue is that it should with most of RESPECT, and any funny cartoons are strictly forbidden.
Besides all, who on earth sais that Muslims killed by other muslims are more than muslims killed by others (US, UK, Israel, etc) all together.
Let me clear something to you. Israelis does not equal to jews, in our point of view it equals to a zionist racist regime which thinks they are the best human race on the planet and for no reason has attacked ME and, with west’s support, wants the entire land from Nile to Forat rivers. Something else is that Alqayda members are NOT muslims in the viewpoint of most majority of muslims but something made by US. Even if they’re killing other muslims, that doesn’t count as a muslim killing muslim. Have you read the background of Wahhabis and what they did in about 2 centuries ago killing lots of Arabs with France and Britain’s support?
I think what has been structured in your mind about the Middle East and Islam is based on what you’ve been feed by your government, TV, newspapers, magazines and even university, which is mostly wrong.
well Hejab is somehow a symbol of Islam, but not as Mac is calling it over here.
Some very religious Christians and Jews cover their hair too.
But I’d call Hejab an onofficial symbol of Islam!
Parsa, Kahlid, it is strange how you both blame the current situation in the Middle East on Britain and France. They didn’t start taking an interest in the region until the WWI and only then because they were fighting the Turks. If anyone is to blame for the situation in the Middle East it is the Turks, they gambled during WWI and lost.
It’s odd that you say that about alcohol Parsa. My experience with Muslims comes mainly from those that live in the UK, who appear to be the most devout in the world. The alcohol hand wash issue is a big problem at the moment in hospitals in the UK as most hand washes are alcohol based and Muslims refuse to wash their hands when visiting relatives. Yet it seems that in almost all hospitals in the Middle East, they use alcohol based hand washes. Why do Muslims living in the West take it so literal?
It is a similar story with pigs, Piglet (from Winnie the Pooh) is banned by many local and Central Government institutions in the UK, in case it offends Muslims. This includes dolls, pictures on cups and pencils, T-shirts and so on. Surely an over reaction to a cartoon character?
There was also the incident where a woman was forced (by a court) to remove her porcelain pig figurines from her window sill (inside her house) as it was deemed offensive to Muslims.
You say that the press and TV damage our view of the Middle East and Islam, but typically it is contact with British Muslims that does this. They appear to follow the most extreme and literal version of Islam possible and do not endear themselves to the indigenous population. They seem to go out of their way to cause disruption and this is the face of Islam that people in the West see.
Hi Mac, I just realised Khalid’s comments. I think it isn’t actually strange that our approach are same about the topic. I think this may indicate that Shias and Sunnis are united and have the same approach to many issues going on in the Islamic world. there are always extremists in all nations, races, religions; but that doesn’t apply to the whole of those race, religion, etc.
About France and Britian, you’re wrong; British, Portugese, French, etc have been tryin to colonise many parts of the Middle East for more than 500 years… It got intense after finding oil and its usage, so it hasn’t been since WWI.
I’ve also lived in the UK and I know what you mean, it’s a bit weird sometimes for me as welll that muslims over there sometimes get to over on issues, it’s probabely away of their mainlands and don’t get updated. In Iran we know Islam as a religious which covers and applies to all aspects of life (politics, economics, personal life, marriage, healthcare, etc) with its flexibility and sensable logics. In some old days (50 years ago) people were not using alcohol (even industrial) and if they had, they had to clean themselves etc. But it’s different now, we use it with no problems. In handwashes and other detergents, perfumes …
The same issue about Winnie the Pooh! I didn’t know that at all. When I was 5 we were in the UK and I remember my Mom buying me books and videos of the piglet, and I had a very religious family …
On your last paragraph, I agree with you somehow about Muslims who are not wise and logic sometimes and making things too hard. But this is NOT what Islam is asking them to do Mac. They’re tryin to be good and the best they can by stayin on the safe side!
Well Parsa, the comments by you and Khalid have certainly opened my eyes. I admit that my dealings with Muslims in the UK had allowed a bias view of Islam to creep in. I had hoped to one day visit Iraq (although the Americans have forced me to cross that off my list) and Iran, but thought that if the Muslims were that strict in the UK, they must be ten times worse in a place like Iran and so crossed that off too, believing that it would be more hassle than it was worth. I suppose that I was wrong.
I am happy that I convinced you about this.
The reality is that your governments have never given you a real image of Iran (which is Propaganda, as you tought me!).
I really wish you find a chance to visit Iran someday and see the truth. Iraniansare well-known for the hospitality (not like
americansColumbia uni’s president).I can find many things that I look for here! Thank you very much!
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