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:: Holocaust :: … don’t get near to it!
Posted by Ali Sanaei under Ahmadinejad, Europe, France, Geography, Germany, History and Archeology, Iran, Middle East, Politics, Russia, USA, United Kingdom, War and Military
Germany has inaugurated a museum at the site of the Nazi concentration camp where diarist Anne Frank died. this BBC’s news mentions that 50,000 Jews were killed in the Holocaust. Well this is different from what we sometimes hear from Israeli media and also what has been mentioned in Wikipedia that 6,000,000 Jews were killed at the Holocaust.
Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called the Holocaust a possible myth 2 years ago and has continuously asked for reinvestigation on this event in many occasions. The logic is simple:
- Has the Holocaust really happened?
- If Yes; When, Where, Who’s responsible?
- Who did it? Germany, Austria, Romania, Hungary? (And other countries based on this site’s table).
- If so; what is Israel doing in Middle East occupying Palestine and invading Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt? Also making threats to other countries in the region. All getting supported mainly by USA and Europe.
- If West is sorry for what they’ve done in WWII and to Jews; why don’t they give a peace of their own lands to Jews instead of supporting them to occupy others’.
- Why is it illegal in France, Germany and few other countries to do researches on the Holocaust? Authors actually get arrested for denying it or even just writing their questions.
The Iranian regime does not have any problems with Jews, but with what she calls the Zionist Regime of Israel. In fact Iran had 150,000 Jews at 1948, and currently has about 40,000, still the second largest Jew community in the Middle East after Israel. Their rights are recognised by the government and they have an official representative in the Iranian Parliament. Most Jews know themselves distinctive to Israelis.
When I was writing this article, I started typing Hol… in my Google toolbar, waiting for the rest of the word (Holocaust) to appear on Google’s suggestions list. In a moment I thought maybe I’m typing it wrong, but after all I realised that Google has banned the word from its suggestions list, like what they have done for sexual words.
What’s really behind this event that West doesn’t want us to get aware of?
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he’s a f***ing moron. he isn’t just questioning holocaust, he said israel must be wiped off the map. he’s the new hitler.
Zionists have hijacked the worlds media and thats the reason why ahmadinejadhater is saying that the guy has claimed Israel must be wiped off the map. ahmadinejadhater who the f***ing moron are the Israeli’s who are killing Palestinian children and women, they are the facists and the nazis not Iran or hamas or hezbollah???!!!! you know you are a dumb sh** cose Iran has NOT attacked any country for centuries and will not do so unless a moron like bush orders and attack on Iranian territory. Dudes tensions are high, there’s word of war in Washington, Tehran, London, Moscow, and every country who is involved in world affairs so do anything you can to stop WWIII… falling and empire has always caused trouble for the entire world and the US empire may fall any time… don’t fool yourself
why did ahmedinijad say israel must be wiped off the map? doesn’t this mean he’s a dangerous person and a threat to world’s peace?
I’m not a big fan of Ahmadinejad but people shouldn’t be calling the president of my country the new Hitler!! He never said Israel should be wiped off the map just checkout the link below if you wanna hear voices from both sides and it really pisses me off to see that the jewry that have bloods on their hand and are planning more trouble for peace and the human race have spread this false quote all over the media and the internet.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=5866
It isn’t illegal to deny the holocaust in Britain, so I can say that I honestly believe it is exaggerated. The Jew population in Europe didn’t seem to go down by much from 1940-1950, after all millions ended up in Israel even though some eight million were apparently killed in the holocaust.
It also seems to be rarely reported that some rich and powerful Zionist Jews worked with the Nazi’s to get Jews land in Palestine.
Again it is also rarely mentioned that the Jewish state was founded on terrorism, the early Zionists committed bombings and attacks on civilians. Then they wonder why the Palestinians are trying to re-found the Palestinian state the same way.
Mac, Do you think 8m Jews were killed during world war 2?
Palestinians are not killing civilians, like what Israelis are. Besides, Israelis are still doin so, so it wasn’t just for the start.
Israelis officially threat to terror other countries and persons …
Javad, the fact that you’re iranian makes u not accept the truth? u disagree with others critisizing your president only because your iranian! wise logic!!!!
Thats true Rob I’m disagreeing with others criticizing the president of my country who’s criticisms are based on lies that the Jewish mainstream media is feeding them but at the same time I accept criticisms which are true like the way he’s managing the country’s economy and the standoff with the west on the nuclear issue.
Now you’re makin some points! I have no idea about Iran’s economy probs, but I hear from news all the time that life is gettin worst day by day. I mean not just since he came, since forever!!!!! My Irani friends mostly say the same.
but I actually wonder what you’re seein wrong with his standoff on Iran’s nuclear issue.?! It’s quite funny, I always thought if this man has done anything right for Iran, that must be the way he has dealt with the nuke case. He’s screwed the West and they can’t do anythin!
he has screwed his own country while screwing the west.
he is like a suicide …debator!
your ears are blocked, your eyes are covered, your brain is froze, your heart is stone.
Why Can’t You Just See The Truth and Justice He Is Bringing To The World?
he makes his arguments all based on concrete evidence and undrestandable logic. for example what he has said about “Holocaust”.
Holocause has been researched and proved thousand of times. Why does this crazy retard want to waste world’s time again on this? We’re not talking about an event happened 2000 years ago, it’s just 60-70 years…
God help Jerusalem
I think Jews have exaggerated the Holocaust and have been exploiting it since and why should the Palestinians lose their homes, lives, lands and pay for the Jews which had been gassed by Hitler?
Iran’s economy is unstable and it’s based on oil exports and I think it’s mainly because of sanctions and the governments lack of management and also an eight year war with Iraq which cost Iran billions but the guy who started the war (Saddam) is now dead and those who supported him are Iran’s enemies or are not very good friends of Iran therefore no ones gonna pay for damages and also the lives of the young Iranians who were supposed to manage the country today.
Life in Iran?? according to former nuclear negotiator, Hasan Rowhani, The effects of the UN sanctions are visible and our situation gets worse day by day.
Why Mr. Sanaei? Who are you?
Ali, Look the BBC says that 50,000 Jews were killed at Bergen-Belsen: one of many concentration camps. There is so much evidence of the history of the Holocaust including the responsible parties that it actually boggles the mind that anyone could think that it is still a question.
It’s like saying that we need to continually prove that the world is not flat.
Read about the archive at Bad Arolsen that was just opened to the public: http://tinyurl.com/2qszgb
15 miles of evidence? 50 million documents? What will it take to get people to stop questioning whether or not it actually happened?
Yes Tori, sorry, today someone told me this on this following link too http://www.iranian.com/main/blog/ali-sanaei/holocaust-don-t-get-near-it
I misread the article at the first. However, my point is not questioning the Holocaust, but why censorship? why doesn’t my Google toolbar suggest Holocaust when I start typing it? Why is it banned?
The world is not flat, and NO ONE has an argue on it. There are many experts doubting on Holocaust, the quality and dimensions of it. But is preventing them for asking on it. It’s actually like when Church was on charge in Europe. They were saying earth and dooming whoever was against it. Like what is happening in Europe again, they actually send Holocaust deniers in to jail!!!
Assuming it happened? Why are Zionists doing this to Palestinians in the name of Jews? If West is sorry for what they’ve done; why don’t they give their own lands?
Jews have always lived in peace with Muslims, way better than living with Europeans.
I typed holocaust into google here in London England and had 1 of 10 pages of 24,000,000 to do with the holocaust downloaded. Before the second world war, in every capital city there was a Jewish area, where the jewish bakers jewellers tailors and synagogues were, stretching from Vienna in Austria, across to Berlin Warsaw Paris and all the way to the Baltic cities of Vilinus, and Riga etc. After the war there were no more jewish areas, the majority of them had not survived, it is an old red herring used by facists and jew haters to say the holocaust never happened. On another level it is a crime the way the remaining jews have stolen another peoples country, stolen Palestine from it’s arab peoples, this is the festering sore on the world today, it is almost cerain 9/11 would not have happened had there been a prosperous Palestinian state today with Jeruselam as it’s capital, but Israel has been aided and abetted in it’s crime by America and Europe.
Dear Sir, I just read your article about Crimes against Jewish people and it was very interesting the way you think. It really doesn’t matter how many human lives has been destroyed in this tragic event. Killing totally is wrong, no matter how many got killed. There are very efficient evidence that indicates more than 6 million Jews has been killed during WWII.
We always need take into our consideration who writes the history. Off course criminals always wants to cover up their criminal act and say we did not do it. I do not blame you or any other Iranian in Iran that they write or talk in such irresponsible way. The fact that Iranian in Iran do not have broad access to the correct information is not debatable.
I am not trying to get into argue with any one in here and I believe every one has its own opinion and I respect that.
As far as Israel concern history proven that never ever has been a country by name Palestine. Palestinian were remaining tribe from Roman Empire that remained in Israel or whatever makes you feel good calling it. These countries always have been under occupation from Persian Empire to British Empire and Jewish people fought British occupation and took over it. If you are such historian and relying on history evidence, I highly recommend you review the relation of this land with Jewish people.
Now I am not ignoring the fact that there are Arabs who called themselves Palastinian and they live in the same region.
Let say if we help Palestinian to fight Israelis and let say your dream come true and Palestine became the only country then what would be your solution to more than 6 million residents of Israel.
We need to help them to recognize each others and live in peace. However, before we helped Israel and Palestinian to make peace, maybe their Muslim brothers and sister should help them to get along with each other. (I mean Hamas and Fatah and Jihad Islamism and Al quads and …). Now if they can’t have peace among them self how can they make peace with Israel.
Let’s just pray for better days and peace.
The site has found a new IRI’s Bache Mollah!
This one is a cool Basiji, a higher level than Hoder, Q, Mehdi, Midwesty, and others. This Bache Akhoond does not mind even directly chewing Ahamadinejad’s denials about Holocaust.
People can argue for all eternity, about whether a country existed or not. Historians say that in ad 135 Hadrian the Roman Emperor put down the second Jewish revolt against Rome in the Roman Provincea Judea, and decided to blot out the name and renamed it Provincea Syria Palaestina which was shortened later to Palaestina and then it became anglised to Palestine during the Crusades. After the crusaders were beaten it was ruled by the Ottoman Turks from 1517 until 1917, and the name was revived then after the British Mandate.
Ali Joon,
You say that the BBC says 50,000 died in the holocust. Please go read the article again. Do you now how to read english? The article says that 50,000 died at the Berge-Breslen in Germany during World War II. The majority of the death camps were in Poland (Lahestan).
Pleas go read a few books about WWII before you make your hamvatans looks stupid.
I agree that people should have the freedom of speech to deny the holocust but that is a different issue. You do not understand what freedom of speech is. Can people in Iran go and write articles about the Following:
1) Did Muhammad Exist?
2) Did Muhammad have sex with a 9 year old girl?
3) If she was not 9, how old was she? Lets investigate.
4) Did the prophet Ali Exist?
5) Was Hussain really a person?
The Holocust is a well documented event. There is a minority (very small minority) who challenges the numbers or denies that it occurred. Please go and read before your write this chertopert.
I have posted a blog on Iranian.com but I have no idea why it has not published yet so in your respond I will let you and people like Mr. Ahamadi Nejad read it. Here you go:
The Israeli Ambassador at the U.N. began, “Ladies and gentlemen before I commence with my speech, I want to relay an old Passover story to all of you…
When Moses was leading the Jews out of Egypt toward the Promised Land, he had to go through the nearly endless Sinai desert…
The people became thirsty and needed water. So Moses struck the side of a mountain with his staff and a pond appeared with crystal clean, cool water. The people rejoiced and drank to their hearts’ content.
Moses wished to cleanse his whole body, so he went over to the other side of the pond, took all of his clothes off and dove into the cool waters. Only when Moses came out of the water, he discovered that all his clothes had been stolen” And”, he said, ” I have reasons to believe that the Palestinians stole my clothes.”
The Palestinian delegate, hearing this accusation, jumps from his seat and screams out, “This is a travesty. It is widely known that there were no Palestinians there at that time!!!” “And with that in mind,” said the Israeli Ambassador, “let me now begin my speech…”
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by Hamvatan (not verified) on Mon Nov 26, 2007 09:19 PM PST
Dear Ali,
I appreciate your honesty. Thank you. You are definetly not an Ahmagh :) I apologize for my harsh words but the way you wrote the article is insulting- As Mr. Ahmaghinejad is insulting our intelligence every time he opens his big mouth.
As to freedom of speech, I don’t think I made myself clear. I was trying to shock you but you took it as if I was talking about some kind of debate among Islamic Scholars. I am sure if you
have a turban on your head and the discussion is amongst religious scholars (with regards to the questions regarding Islam) you could ask the question I posed.
Allow me to make my point in a different way.
1) Can a Bahai in Iran come on the TV, newspapers or in the street and say, “Islam is not the true religion of God only Bahais have the true religion come join my religion?” What will happen to this person? Will this person be allowed to Open a Bahahi Masjid and invite moslems to his Masjid to convert?
2) Can a Moslem start a newspaper and call the news paper “Sunni Islam Is the only true form of Islam” and sell it freely in the streets of Tehran without government intervention?
3)As to Ahmadinejad- his comment that the Holocust needs to be examind is as outlandish as me coming to you and saying that the existense of Muhammad needs to be examind. Muhammad did not exist. Do you understand that? If you don’t, I ask you again to please go and read some books on WWII.It appears that you have not.
Please think about these questions.
AGAIN, please go read some books on WWII. You will discover that there was a horrible event called Holocust. 12 million died in Nazi concentration camps, 6 million were jews. There rest were Gypsys, Germans, Russians, Pols. You will also discover that 25 million Russians died at the hands of Stalin. All you need to do is go an read some books. Australia has many book stores. Go and Read. Its a documented fact.
As to Palestine and Holocust. Here are some basic facts for you. Please go read history to see If I am wrong or right.
1) There was never a nation state called Palestine. There was never a Palestinian government or rule over the land. In the last 3000 years, the Territory called Palestine now, was either under the Jews, the Babylonians, The Persians (under Cyrus), the Jews again because of Cyrus letting them go back, The Greeks, the Romans, The Arab Caliphate, Crusaders, The Ottoman Empire, The British and the Israelis. Just like there was never a country called Iraq or Kuwait or United Arab Emirates. There was never a country called Palestine. There were arabs who lived in palestine, there were jews and Christians, there were druze
2) In 1948, The UN decided to Partition the land. One for Palestinians. One for Jews. Whether you or the Palestinians like it or not. This is what the UN (the world) decided because of what had happened in Europe. The Arabs did not accept this. There was a war. As a result of the War, 800,000 palestinian refugees were created. Some palestinian refugees were created as a result of Israeli agression, some palestinans refugees were created as a result of Arab encouragement. Additionally, 700,000 jews were forced to leave arab lands as a result of the creation of Israel. Jews from Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Morroco, Egypt. Algeria, Yemen, Lybia were all also
kicked out as a result of Israel’s creation. The difference between the Jewish refugees and Arab Refugees was that Israel accepted the Jewish refugees as citizens, the Arabs did not accept the arab refugees as citizens. For 60 years now, the palestinians are still refugees in Syria,Lebanon and Jordan. The plight of the Palestinians is very sad but the world, incuding palestinians & Israelis have been trying to fix it. The arabs now will accept Israel if it returns the teritories captured in 1967 6 day war (1948 is not even an issue anymore).
Whether you (or Mr. Antarinejad) like it or not, The
fact is that most Arabs have accepted Israel as a state. Egypt and Jordan have signed peace treaties.
The Gulf Arab states have indirect contacts. And the Saudis and the rest will join in recognizing Israel when Israel returns the golan back to Syria and the
west bank to the palestinians. The only country not accepting this is Iran and Iranians are not even Arabs. Why? Why are Iranian more Palestinian than Arabs? This is all politics. Bad politics. The IRI only supports the most outlandish elements in the Arab world (Hamas, Islamic Jihad).
There are 6.5 million Jews in Israel. Where are you going to send them? Don’t you think the argument is stupid? Assuming the creation of Israel was wrong, does kicking them out after 60 years (the innocent children of the occupiers who had nothing to do with the original sin) make it things right? Is this Manteghi type of logic? DDoes two wrong = right?
Even the Arabs are not asking for this. Can you name a single Arab government who is saying “send the jews to Europe, Canada, Alaska”? What about the Jews from Arab lands? Where should they go now? Their ancentors number over 3 million now. Should they go to Alaska as Anatarinejad says? Is this logical reasoning?
The entire world is trying to make them two sides accept a two state solution. The only government that does not accept the two state solution is the Islamic Republic. Why?
If Ahmadinejad cares about the liberation of land, then with this logic lets go down the list:
1) Should we liberate the land and the people that Russia took away from Iran 100 years ago? Russia is occupying Iranian teritorry. The Bucharans and Azarbiejanis still speak Farsi. They should be liberated. Isn’t that more important to the President of Iran than the Palestinians?
2) Should we send all the Europeans and new emigrants like you out of Australia and give it back
to the original inhabitants? You lice in occupied land. Don’t you know that?
3) Should we kick the Americans out of America and give it all back to the Indians. America is occupied. So is South America.
4) What about the Kurds? There are more Kurds than Palestinians. They are Muslim to! Iranians, Iraqis, Syrians & Turks all have Kurdish teritorry and are controling the Kurds against their will. We are occupying Kurdish people. Lets give them the land back and kick everyone else out.
Do you see the problem with this logic yet? I could find better examples for you.
Ahmadinejads arguments and the IRI’s stance is one of the stupidest arguments I have ever scene. It is very embarrasing to be an Iranian with these arguments.
Ali,
A good book on WWII is “A World at Arms: A Global History of World War II” by Gerhard L. Weinberg (Author)
You say”
-” Iran’s definitation to freedom of speech is different to US. nowhere is completely Free.”
Yes In america you can not go into a movie theater and scream “fire” when there is no fire. But In American and the rest of the free world, you have the freedom to politically support who you want to and write and read what you want (playboy, the bible, the quran). No one polices the news, books…. In Iran, the definition of freedom is defined by who is in charge, based on their view of Islam. That is not freedom of speech. That is totaleterian/fascist and unfree. For example, someone in Iran has decided that Iranina.com should not be viewed by Iranians. Don’t you think that this is none sense? lease Ali, there is no such thing as freedom of speech in Iran. Not under the Mullahs and Not under the shah.
You also say:
“For instance, why isn’t Google toolbar not suggesting the Holocaust word when I start typing?! Why doesn’t west want me to research on this subject? I really wonder. This makes me even more sensitive.”
I don’t know why the google bars does not finish the word holocust. Go to Yahoo, the Yahoo search finishes it for you. I just tried it. There is no conspiracy to Hide your desire to search holocust. Also, the actual search on the word holocust is not blocked by google- you will get 24 million web pages on google when you search the word. I just did it myself.
You Say:
“1- There was a country called Palestine, but not for long.”
When was there a palestinian government and country? Please site your source (I hope its not Ahmadinejad).
You Say:
“The land mostly belonged to Muslims, but letting Jews, Christians and all others live there in complete peace. There were usually wars when Romans, British, French and West started something.”
Excuse me but Islam is around for 1400 years only so it could not possibly ” mostly belong to Muslims”. Who owned it before? There have been Inhabitants there prior to Islam. Do you remember King David? King Solomon? Jesus? That is 1600 years before Islam. Do you know your Persian History. Do you know that King Cyrus allowed the jews to return to the land now called Palestine? Do you now that the Romans kicked the jews out of Palestine 2000 years ago? Do you know this history or does history start with Muhammad?
You say
“2- 1948, it wasn’t the UN partitioning the land. Those were just the winners of the WWII, later calling themselves the UN. And that was only part of their long-term plan.”
Why does the Iran belong to the UN if this is the case? Iran should get out of the UN. You could not have it both ways. The vote by Palestine was not by the winners only. Below is the vote by each country who was a member state at the time:
The 33 countries ( 58% ) that voted in favour of the partition were: Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian SSR, Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, South Africa, Ukrainian SSR, United States of America, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Uruguay, Venezuela.
The 13 countries ( 23% ) that voted against resolution were: Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.
The 10 countries ( 17% ) that abstained were: Argentina, Chile, Republic of China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Yugoslavia.
One state ( 2% )was absent: Thailand
You say:
“Besides, the WORLD has no right to say what shall happen to other’s lands.”
The problem with your argument is that the land called palestine did not officially belong to any government- Like Kuwait, Iraq, Syria, UAE……. There were arabs and Jews there. Arabs were trying to stop the immigration of the jews even before the holocust (1920-1930). After the holocust, they could not stop it anymore.
You say:
- “Jordan, Egypt, and all other Arabian governments are not elected by their people. There is no democracy in any terms. So it isn’t Arabs recognising Israel, but few puppet Arab governments protected by the West. This is why Ahmadinejad, me and other ‘antars’ like us don’t like it.”
Oh and Iran is Elected by its people? In Iran, if people had the freedom to choose, the mullahs and antarinejad would not be in power. They would get rid of the mullahs in 1 second. But there is not freedom in Iran. If you do not believe in the Velayateh Faqih, you can not run for polotics. Also, if they think that you are to liberal, you can not run for government. Iran is free? With your logic, it isn’t Iranians who are refusing the State of Israel, it is the Iranian government because the Iranians are not free either sir.
You Say
“- The issue is not about Arab-Israel, but Islam-Israel. This is why Iran has plaved the subject on the tip of its foreign policy.”
This is absolutley crazy. Iran is trying to make it Islam/Israel (its really Islam/jews) but they say zionist which is a code word for jews. It is the worst foreign policy on the planet. Iran is the only Islamic country that has this stance. Is Syria americas puppet? Syria is Iran’s Puppet and they came to the peace conference in Annapolise. Why?
You say:
- “These Jews living in the occupoed Palestine can either return to where they came from or they can simply apply for residency! A guest shouldn’t claim the host’s home its own and try capturing it”.
Oh really, there are 3.5 million middle eastern jews in Israel. Have the Arab countries that kicked their ancestors out ever said that they can go back with open arms? Can you tell me what Iran has done to insure that these jews get their property back if Iran’s plan is to resettle everyon? if they are so serious about it why haven’t they come with an official plan? If Iran is for justice, what about these 3.5 million middle eastern jews.
You say:
“- Ahmadinejad gave a solution for the crisis. A referendum. All indigenouses living in that land whether Jew, Muslim, Christian and not those who migrated there in the past 60-70 years choose what country name, government, etc they want. What’s wrong with it?”
When Ahmadinejad allows a referendum in Iran to see if we want Velayateh Faqih, we could maybe do his referendum. Since we are Iranians, shouldn’t we first have our free referendum? Again, this is absolutly crazy- its inviting more bloodshed.
You say:
“1- The war between Iran and Russia is over, it has lost the land in war or by an agreement. The Palestine-Israel crisis is not over yet.”
Oh- so here the war is over with Russia, but Iran decides when the war is over between Israel & Arabs? The Arabs can’t decide for themselves because they are puppets of the west, but the Iranians can decide for Arabs? Iran has not lost a single person in the Arab Israeli conflict but it should decide how the arabs make peace or war? The same Arabs that killed a million Iranians in Iraq/Iran war? The same palestinians who supported Saddam in the iran iraq war? This is good politics? Can you tell me of another country who has adopted Ahmadinejad’s view on this issue? If its so good, if its such a good option, why hasn’t China, Russia, Venezuella (who are by no means America puppets) have accepted these great policies of Ahmadinejad? I am sorry, but this makes Iranians look very stupid and racist. It says, the arabs are not smart enough for themselves to decide. It also invites more wars.
In addition to reading some books about WWII, maybe you should read some books about Iran (a good book is called the Turnban for the Crown).
why don’t you use this excuse about Palastine? Israel Exsist but there is no Palastine. United State of America exisit but there we do not have united State of Native American. Lets live in todays time and not yesterday.
Plastianian need to have their own country and Israelies as well. By destorying different nation and establishing new nation we would not solve any problem but creating more. I hope you understand. We need love and peace not another war.
I think Ahmadi-Nejad wants to run for Plastinian presidency. He is more Plastinian than Mahmid Abbas. :) oh and by the way, what is that Khamenai has around his neck all the time? isn’t symbol of Arabs? I even do not know what is called coz I am Iranian and not Arab.
Dear Hamvatan I proud having you as Hamvatan. God Bless Iran and true Iranian.
Ali,
No body is writing essays here. We are commenting on your lack of abvious knowledge. You make statements without being able to back them. Such as “there was a palestinian state for a short period of time”. We asked you to provide proof. You Can not. Nobody was talking about Khamanei’s Keffayeh either when they were saying that the Iranians are more palestinian that the Palestinians. What we meant is that the Iranians are more extreme about the Palestinian cause than the Palestinians or the arabs. Statement as “Ahmadinejad is more Muslim than the Palestinians” just shows your lack of understanding of the Arab Israeli conflict. You accuse me of being bombarded by the zionist media. You , and the Iranian regime, is trying to rewrite history . You have no understanding of such concepts as freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of though, freedom of speech, separation of religion from government. You only respect these “freedoms” through the vision of Islam and Khamenei’s (Khomeiny) interpretation of Islam. You only talk the talk of the Hizbolahis in Iran. You are the by product of the Islamic regime. I never said that because I read a book I was right or more right than you. I said for you to go read some books because you asked me and because it is very apparent that you have no idea what you are talking about. You are a carbon copy of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s news agency with their point of view on “american Imperialisims” “zionisim” garbage. Being “more muslim” (which is a very subjective point of view) does not solve problems. Read books to see different points of view and to open up your mind from the brainwashing you have received by the fundamentalist islamists. I have read plenty of books. I have a doctorate degree in law- I have studied Sharia law, jewish law, american law, international law. I also ave a degree in political science. Saying things such as “Ahmadinejad is more muslim than palestinians”, “taking our holy lands” is very naive sir. Unfortunatley, its the point of view of people like you who will cause more wars and deaths in the middle east. Good Luck.
In all this discussions a few important points are left out …
1. The Picot Sykes Agreement
2. The Balfour Declaration
3. The Population Of Jews Before WW2 was less than 100,000. Thereafter, it was rose to 1 million.
4. The major tragedy is the West Asian support of the West.
5. West Asia needs to study history - South Africa, Poland, USSR and Vietnam.
6. The History Of Haiti, Cuba etc. The Difficulty of Democracy
To get more on these points, click on the embedded links.